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    Bob423
  Sat Apr 02, 2011 10:58 pm
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Final Fantasy 7 and 10

:!: The first three "Re" games are remakes of my first rmxp games.
I know what's wrong with them, and i fixed everything i could, so the game would still be the same.
These games are not supposed to be super serious.
I would like only positive things said about these game, since i know what's wrong. if you are going to post things that are wrong with any of the games, list pros. AND cons. :!:
Thank You.

Re: Final Fantasy XP
A boy (you name him) receives a letter from the mayor of a nearby town inviting him yo his house. The boy learns that he must save the four elementals and learn who imprisoned them. The Mayor's Daughter goes with him. along the way, they meet Auron(FFX) and Mage.
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Re: Final Fantasy XP II
The world is at peace once again, but after only 6 months, monsters start pouring out of the other temples that weren't in the previous game. The boy goes to defeat the monsters and find out who is responsible for this. along the way he meets Zero (MMX), Cloud Strife, Riku, and Sora (KH).
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Re: Final Fantasy XP III
Everyone from the previous games returns, except for Riku and Sora. The Aeons from FFX have returned, and The heroes mus defeat Seymour, Sin, and whoever is controlling him.
New Allies: Barret Wallace, Aerith Gainsborough, Yuffie Kisagragi, Tidus, and Jecht

Final Fantasy XP IV
2 years have past since Sehiroth's defeat. The world is at peace once again. 3 hero's are left, the rest have gone home. The player walks to the mayor's house, and finds out that he has been making pottery and sculptures for the king, and he asks you to take some of his work to the castle. Thief goes with you. you are then told to go to the snow town, and ask if "Mage" will to go too. She is sick in bed, but when you leave the house, her brother offers to take her place. After that, you go back to the town and head East instead of the usual West, meaning it will not have all the same maps, and you will be heading for one destination, similar to FFX, but it's not for most of the game. There is a surprise waiting at the castle town.


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    moog
  Sat Apr 02, 2011 11:20 pm
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Wow. um, these are really bad. you should work on your mapping and overall grammar. holy shit. I would suggest start something small and then work on it for a long time and not a couple of hours.


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    Perihelion
  Sat Apr 02, 2011 11:25 pm
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Could you post more screenshots, please?

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    Jason
  Sat Apr 02, 2011 11:28 pm
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MORE screenshots, how about posting SOME screenshots first?

... Or am I missing something? Because I see no screenshots o.O

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    udivision
  Sat Apr 02, 2011 11:44 pm
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Hmm, this guy was on RPG Revolution too...
He's made 7 games, none of them any good.

As tempting as it is, don't get all worked up over this guy. He's not very good and extremely defensive, not really a good mix.
Instead of posting malicious spam, why dont you post something constructive? This isnt very helpful or is it nice. Verbal warning ~moog


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    Bob423
  Sat Apr 02, 2011 11:46 pm
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tobacco goldfish wrote:
Wow. um, these are really bad. you should work on your mapping and overall grammar. holy shit. I would suggest start something small and then work on it for a long time and not a couple of hours.

thanks :grin: your really nice.

whay should i give screenshots? there isn't much to look at. the mapping has improved a ton, i don't see what you're complaining about. and as for the grammer, well, just don't bring it up again.

and please read the first post before posting anything

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    Bob423
  Sat Apr 02, 2011 11:47 pm
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udivision wrote:
Hmm, this guy was on RPG Revolution too...
He's made 7 games, none of them any good.

As tempting as it is, don't get all worked up over this guy. He's not very good and extremely defensive, not really a good mix.

leave me alone.
why done' you give me a chance, i wanted a clean slate, but you ruined my chances of ever being liked on this forum. thanks.

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    Perihelion
  Sat Apr 02, 2011 11:47 pm
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You should post screenshots because they're a requirement for this forum and I'm going to lock your thread if you don't. :p

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    Bob423
  Sun Apr 03, 2011 12:07 am
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alright, i posted a couple

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    moog
  Sun Apr 03, 2011 2:22 am
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I understand these are your first games but if you continue to act like a spoiled brat im going to lock this thread. I played the games and there isnt much positive to say except good job for finishing these games, although it doesnt take much effort to do what youve done to be fairly honest. Take the crits in stride and use the advice, albeit harsh, to make a better project.


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    moog
  Sun Apr 03, 2011 2:24 am
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Also Im gonna back Bob up on one thing. If you come in here to post something rude or offensive without some sort of critical feedback, youre getting warned. Dont bandwagon with "OMG THE SCREENS" or something if it has already been said.


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    Bob423
  Sun Apr 03, 2011 2:56 am
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on rmxpu, people have said that my games aren't that bad, but everywhere else, people think they suck. and if your going to be a moderator, you should at least be nice, or noops will never want to come here.

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    moog
  Sun Apr 03, 2011 3:11 am
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They arent very good, man. Im not saying youre a terrible person or are stupid or anything. This is not a doctors office. We are here to provide criticism to better your game. Your mapping is bland, the dialog is one-dimensional and the grammar is atrocious.

What you fail to grasp, however, is a general understanding of maturity. If you are going to post something you made on the internet, be prepared to realize that everyone differs with what you might think. Im not sure you have that yet, seeing as you attacked everyone who has posted here.

You should at least thank me, so far I am the only one here who has taken the time to download and play your game, and seeing as I am a musician, I hardly have time for RM games. I even backed you up to the fact that people should not just flame you but should provide decent criticism, which so far I am the only one who has said anything.

Now, with that said, you really need to relax. Post around, you will see this is a friendly community. Maybe post an intro? There are alot of feedbaack and critique forums here as well, if you want to post your storyline ideas for your games to get more power.

When you fall down, just get back up and try again. Making 6 or 7 games with the same exact style and bad habits wont progressively help you get better.


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    Bob423
  Sun Apr 03, 2011 3:36 am
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actually, they don't have the same problems, i've been getting better, but i do appreciate that you stood up for me and stuff.
like i said, these games are not supposed to be serious, so they aren't going to have the best grammar. The grammar is also a very small part of it, so i would like it if you would focus on things that are more important, like the mapping that isn't as bad as you say, i really don't see what's wrong with it, although i could improve it. as for the story, i know i need to improve on that.
and how many times do i have to say I know whats wrong with these games?

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    mawk
  Sun Apr 03, 2011 3:41 am
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It doesn't matter if you know what's wrong with the games if you don't apply the knowledge and use it to improve. Keep in mind that .ORG and the other game-making forums out there are here to provide criticism and help people to get better at whatever it is they're choosing to do - if you know what's wrong but choose not to fix it because it's "not a serious project", then why are you posting it in a community of developers? Of course they're going to let you know what you've done wrong!

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    Tuna
  Sun Apr 03, 2011 3:50 am
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Unfortunately, I'm going to have to agree with the rest of he hecklers. These screenshots are a pretty good summary of my play through.

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    Bob423
  Sun Apr 03, 2011 3:56 am
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with that last one, i meant to have him talk like that, it's supposed to be funny.
and i have better stuff to do than to try to please people who haven't even said a single nice thing to me, or about the game, or anyone for that matter. now, if you were my friend, or wanted only one simple thing fixed, and not the whole thing, it would be different.

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    Tuna
  Sun Apr 03, 2011 3:58 am
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If you want to improve your mapping, I suggest you start here.

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    moog
  Sun Apr 03, 2011 4:00 am
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Bob423 wrote:
actually, they don't have the same problems, i've been getting better, but i do appreciate that you stood up for me and stuff.
like i said, these games are not supposed to be serious, so they aren't going to have the best grammar. The grammar is also a very small part of it, so i would like it if you would focus on things that are more important, like the mapping that isn't as bad as you say, i really don't see what's wrong with it, although i could improve it. as for the story, i know i need to improve on that.
and how many times do i have to say I know whats wrong with these games?


The mapping isnt horrible, its just very bland. And yeah as mawk said it doesnt matter, you post it here so we can critique and help you get better. If you know whats wrong with the games why do you post them? Doesnt make sense.


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    Bob423
  Sun Apr 03, 2011 4:00 am
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for the last time, i don't need anyone to help me with my mapping.

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    moog
  Sun Apr 03, 2011 4:02 am
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Bob423 wrote:
with that last one, i meant to have him talk like that, it's supposed to be funny.
and i have better stuff to do than to try to please people who haven't even said a single nice thing to me, or about the game, or anyone for that matter. now, if you were my friend, or wanted only one simple thing fixed, and not the whole thing, it would be different.


Well I guess you've made your choice then.

Next time let's not waste the community's time with immature antics, ok?


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    mawk
  Sun Apr 03, 2011 4:03 am
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and i have better stuff to do than to try to please people who haven't even said a single nice thing to me, or about the game, or anyone for that matter. now, if you were my friend, or wanted only one simple thing fixed, and not the whole thing, it would be different.

If you require all input to be sugar-coated, pureed, and spoon-fed to you, I don't think you should be posting your games online. We have a thing we do here that involves telling people what they've done wrong so that they can fix them and avoid making the same mistakes in the future. We give credit where credit is due, but there isn't a whole lot of credit due here I'm sorry to say.

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    Perihelion
  Sun Apr 03, 2011 4:21 am
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If you're making a game just for your own amusement or that of your friends, fine. There's nothing wrong with making a game just for fun; you don't have to aspire to be the world's greatest developer to enjoy a hobby. However, if you're deliberately not striving for quality, you really have no grounds to complain when people don't like your game. This forum is critique-oriented. If you're not looking to improve, there's not really anything here for you. Perhaps you should just distribute it to your friends instead.

That said, if you DO want to make a game that other people will enjoy, stop being so defensive and we'll be happy to help you. Everyone started somewhere, and there's no shame in not being an expert as long as you're willing to learn.

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    Cait
  Sun Apr 03, 2011 4:28 am
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okay, I am going to give you so feed back. Calm down. There is a difference between a troll post, flaming post, constructive and non constructive criticism. If people post in your topic it means they are reading your topic, but even if you disagree with someone, go ahead and read it. Don't get defensive, because I, too, used to be like that and who knows what idea someone might give you. Your mapping isn't the worst in the world (trust me, I was far worse), but reach out, talk to people and find a way of playing. There are people who can be your friend here, as long as you are willing to be nice and open up to them. Not everyone is going to like one thing or another, but if you stay true to what you want, who knows they might like your ideas.

I do say that the only person you should please is yourself, no one else. I am going to give my feed back about your game. It clear that you want a funny game, nothing too serious which is not an entirely bad idea. However, I do suggest that you just look at the mapping guide and see if you can improve. Take a step back, take a deep breath and if you are serious about a new start, show it by your actions. There's no point in getting defensive, no one is attacking you, but just stating their opinions. Who knows what you might learn if you just read and your might find some wonderful inspiration just by something a single person says.

(^_^) I hope you understand what I am saying. Because I do want you to have a new start, I think we all need that at times when we've made a few mistakes. Believe me, I used to have an account at Gamingw.net (an old site that's called: Salty...(._.) whatever now), but I was just like you and was really defensive. I left that site, but grew up a little bit, wasn't so defensive.


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    regi
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Sorry about all this harsh feedback, Bob. I just wanted to let you know that not all of us here are rude or mean to our members.

Your game is actually quite interesting! I really love the creative pixellated title screen, not only is it aesthetically pleasing but it evokes a feeling of nostalgia. I'm glad you included the note about not stealing from Final Fantasy, because that would be plagiarism and very bad, LOL ^__^

The storyline is cool, too. I like elementals! They are really interesting and can create a lot of variety in your games. For example, I really loved exploring a myriad of places such as forest temples, water dungeons, and fire caverns from Zelda, OoT. I hope you incorporated all of these brilliant, original ideas in your game!

Finally, the mapping and grammar aren't too bad. I like the serenity in the forest scene; the river really adds a natural feel to the map. Your gigantic house makes it seem like the hero lives in a mansion, but that's good, because everyone likes rich protagonists! Also, I really don't know what those punks are talking about. I found that one line "If has 10 mythrilz, i make Ultima Weapon" hilarious!!! XDXDXD :haha:

I hope you make plenty more sequels to this, because it's pretty much flawless. Don't worry about everyone else's opinion, because as long as you and your friends have fun, that's all that matters! Keep it up! :thumb:


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    bacon
  Sun Apr 03, 2011 7:47 am
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Hey man, in all seriousness yeah i think you need to work on your game. Even if they are for your friends, there is always room to improve. There are a few things that really turn off many people even in other forums. One thing is grammar; even if it a joke you should you correct grammar. "LOL CRYSTALZ" are usually not very funny at all. I personally think that the best kind of humor is witty, well thought out humor. I always point out these examples but the best place to look for this type of humor are the paper mario games or the later RPG Mario games. I think those exemplify humor in the best way for a new developer. Parody games are like the worst kind of games. Bad mapping + lol crystalz jokes = a very bad game. Even if you are trying to be funny, there are a jillion times better ways to do it.

Yeah I know you keep saying that you dont need help on your mapping, but as a mapper myself, I can tell you that you need some help. Another thing that turns off a lot of people is bad RTP mapping. Its something everyone goes through. I would definitely go for the Mapping Improvement Thread. There are things I dont think you are thinking about right now such as symmetrical mapping and the incorrect use of certain tiles. It would make your game x10 more attractive if you learn some decent mapping.

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    Bob423
  Sun Apr 03, 2011 8:07 pm
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regi wrote:
Sorry about all this harsh feedback, Bob. I just wanted to let you know that not all of us here are rude or mean to our members.

Your game is actually quite interesting! I really love the creative pixellated title screen, not only is it aesthetically pleasing but it evokes a feeling of nostalgia. I'm glad you included the note about not stealing from Final Fantasy, because that would be plagiarism and very bad, LOL ^__^

The storyline is cool, too. I like elementals! They are really interesting and can create a lot of variety in your games. For example, I really loved exploring a myriad of places such as forest temples, water dungeons, and fire caverns from Zelda, OoT. I hope you incorporated all of these brilliant, original ideas in your game!

Finally, the mapping and grammar aren't too bad. I like the serenity in the forest scene; the river really adds a natural feel to the map. Your gigantic house makes it seem like the hero lives in a mansion, but that's good, because everyone likes rich protagonists! Also, I really don't know what those punks are talking about. I found that one line "If has 10 mythrilz, i make Ultima Weapon" hilarious!!! XDXDXD :haha:

I hope you make plenty more sequels to this, because it's pretty much flawless. Don't worry about everyone else's opinion, because as long as you and your friends have fun, that's all that matters! Keep it up! :thumb:


wow...um...thanks...i never thought anyone would say anything like this about one of my games. My games are nowhere near flawless though. the huge house thing is fixed in the sequel. im actually surprised and glad that you like my game. as long has someone out there recognizes that im learning and getting better, i won't stop making games. if you want to see the original FFXP, and how much i've improved it (hence the "Re"), the click here:
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and this is after i added an intro.
it used to be worse.

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    Tuna
  Sun Apr 03, 2011 8:45 pm
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Looking at your previous game actually puts this one into perspective. It is clear to me that you have improved, but there's no need to stop improving! Keep working at your mapping (and your grammar) and I think you can make a truly great game one day. Like I said before, the best place to start improving would be going through that tutorial I linked you to. And feel free to ask the members of the HBGames community for help! We will be happy to assist you!

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    moog
  Sun Apr 03, 2011 8:48 pm
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I like how the only time you give friendly remarks is when someone gives you positive feedback, Bob.


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    regi
  Sun Apr 03, 2011 9:14 pm
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Wow, I see you have improved much. I feel like you haven't reached your full potential, though. For example, your language and dialogue could be so much cooler if you used creative words instead of referencing Legend of Zelda or using offensive words like B**cht*ts (omg like I hope that isn't the old man talking XD). Seriously, though, who is this kid and why the hell did the mayor choose him to save the village? Isn't that kind of cliche? Not that I don't like archetypes (I mean all the Final Fantasies were super awesome!!!) but you really need to add some creativity rather than copy and merge every single commercial jRPG into one silly amateur project!!!


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