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    Perihelion
  Thu Nov 19, 2009 5:36 pm
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Feel free to talk about favorites, what you're looking forward to, what you're currently watching, whatever. I don't watch a lot of anime in general, but I am at the moment, ergo this thread.

I'm currently watching Magical Girl Lyrical Nanoha, which is surprisingly decent considering its mahou shoujo premise. It has actual character development and sympathetic villains (at least in the first two seasons; I only just started StrikerS), the yuri undertones are sweet and tasteful, and I actually like the characters. It's a lot more idealistic than the things I usually enjoy, though, and it shows--I roll my eyes at the POWER OF FRIENDSHIP scenes, I keep wanting them to delve into how incredibly fucked up it is to use nine-year-olds as soldiers, etc. The loli fanservice is somewhat unnerving (and the double standard is irritating--the one guy with a transformation sequence is the ONLY ONE who doesn't get naked during it), but it's a pretty good show if you can get past that. I hear My-HiME subverts the usual mahou shoujo tropes in an interesting way, too, so I might check that out at some point.

I really want to watch the Hellsing OVA, but I'm gonna wait till it's all done. I know the eighth one is supposed to come out in December, but does anyone know if that's the last one? I also plan to see Black Lagoon and Samurai Champloo at some point.

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    Glitchfinder
  Thu Nov 19, 2009 9:42 pm
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I like the Hellsing OVA, so far. The only real problem, for me, is that they have completely stopped dubbing it in English. I realize that they have good reasons, as the company that owns the rights shut down their NA branch. Still, they leased all of the rights for their anime to another company for North America, which promptly re-released everything, and then left it at that.

On the other hand, the only other anime I've watched recently are .hack//SIGN and .hack//Liminality, and that's because I own them both. They're both rather interesting, but they are also part of a much larger story, so I don't recommend starting unless you're willing to watch and read quite a few series for more stuff. (Not to mention the fact that there are games that are part of the story as well)

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    Perihelion
  Thu Nov 19, 2009 10:13 pm
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That's a shame; I've heard good things about the OVA's dub, and iirc the TV series had a pretty good one too. I usually watch my anime subtitled, though, so I'm not too bothered.

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    Chalupa
  Thu Nov 19, 2009 11:24 pm
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I'm currently reading a manga called Desert Coral. Unfortunately, Manga ADV dropped it.


It's got a pretty interesting storyline, well, at least the 5 released volumes do.


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    moog
  Fri Nov 20, 2009 12:06 am
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gantz, elfen lied and boogiepop phantom were the only indie ones ive hxc gotten into lately. Besides that, ive been reading Welcome to the NHK, which is ok imo.

gantz is getting pretty awesome in the manga, i just wish theyd stop making "LOL WHAT A TWIST"'s at every turn.


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    mawk
  Fri Nov 20, 2009 12:17 am
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I used to follow welcome to the nhk (manga only, I don't think I've ever watched a fansub of anything) on the advice of some buddies who were really into it. I started to feel a little too sorry for the guy, though, and the whole DRAMATIC EXPRESSIONS AND OVERSTATEMENT thing got pretty old, so I quit.

I don't think I've seen any anime lately, as in within the last six or so months. one thing I'm really big on, though is Paprika. it's a movie, not a series, but it's probably one of my favourite things ever. it's tough to say why, exactly, except that I find it charming that the movie is wholly and completely insane.

it's not that sort of typical "oh, japan! *laugh track*" insane, though. it's not cultural wackiness that would make contextual sense to the original audience. it's universal insanity, and it's appropriate considering that the entire movie is about dreams (and those tend to be pretty insane!)

I'm always impressed with how closely it mimics actual dreams at certain points, too. the way that everything is totally wrong but you just go along with it at the time because it makes sense within the dream itself.

and Parade is a mad catchy song. happy and oppressive. great theme for what it represents.

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    Glitchfinder
  Fri Nov 20, 2009 12:26 am
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That's a shame; I've heard good things about the OVA's dub, and iirc the TV series had a pretty good one too. I usually watch my anime subtitled, though, so I'm not too bothered.


It's not that I don't like subs. I'm perfectly fine with them. On the other hand, many of my friends are not all right with subs. And yeah, they did a good job with the dubbing. For the most part, it was the same voice actors and actresses as the original series, in the English dub. (Especially the main characters, like Alexander Anderson and Alucard)

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    Ellie
  Fri Nov 20, 2009 1:58 am
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We don't get them here, unless I'm looking in the wrong places.

We get mangas, but I've yet to see a TV anime.


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    moog
  Fri Nov 20, 2009 4:07 am
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you should be able to

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    mawk
  Fri Nov 20, 2009 4:23 am
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    moog
  Fri Nov 20, 2009 4:27 am
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ahaha dude that is great. did you just make that?


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    glorious caesar
  Fri Nov 20, 2009 4:49 am
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gantz is getting pretty awesome in the manga, i just wish theyd stop making "LOL WHAT A TWIST"'s at every turn.


gantz was the shit until the introduced the whole vampire arc. as soon as the story seemed to be getting REALLY INTO IT, they just threw on another whole storyline instead of answering questions.

i pretty much despise all anime/manga by default because the VAST MAJORITY is absolute uninspired filth. but if something has a cool enough premise (and it's recommended by somebody whose taste i trust), i'll check it out.

the only anime i like is haruhi and dbz so. also the death note comic was great (up until L died and then it was loaded with garbage just like the vamps in gantz) but the show was a waste of time imo


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    Perihelion
  Fri Nov 20, 2009 5:44 am
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Most media consist primarily of awful. I've been known to watch the odd bad anime, but I grew up with it, so a lot of it is nostalgic for me. I'm curious, though. Why DBZ?

I liked Haruhi, although I think it's somewhat overrated. Serial Experiments Lain also plays with the concept of reality, albeit in a different way. It's a mindfuck, though.

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    Ellie
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Huh, I'd never thought of DBZ as anime, more a children's cartoon for some reason. Probably because it's only shown with the kids shows :/ I know, there's probably no difference between kids stuff and adult stuff, it just never occurred to me that that's... any genre other than kids cartoon. Like spongebob squarepants or the smurfs. :box:

That's not to say there aren't some really good kids shows because there are.

I don't like the whole "I hate all anime" stance that everyone but the animelikers seem to have; since with everything the genre means absolutely nothing. There are good trance songs yet I wouldn't call myself a trance listener. There are good rap songs but I'm no rapper. Judge by individual programs, and then maybe you'll actually watch a real gem you'd miss otherwise for "not liking the genre".


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    glorious caesar
  Fri Nov 20, 2009 9:36 am
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yeah i don't really think of dbz as anime but because it seems so AMERICAN in so many ways. it's much more comparable to american superhero stories than regular anime and that's probably why it appeals to me. it's full of the classic GOOD vs EVIL EPIC BATTLES but imo it's done in a way that's not "lol epic" like everything is today but in the good kind of epic that we grew up on.

i mean come on—remember the first time goku turned super saiyan on namek. that's just a RUSH man

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but remember anime's not a genre. it's just ANIMATION FROM JAPAN. genres would be within it, like mechs, sailor girls, etc. so consider my dislike of anime racism more than anything :thumb:


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    Glitchfinder
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but remember anime's not a genre. it's just ANIMATION FROM JAPAN. genres would be within it, like mechs, sailor girls, etc. so consider my dislike of anime racism more than anything :thumb:


Actually, that's "Japanimation". Anime and manga are not just Japanese (although the majority of them are) In truth, anime and manga are a class of visual styles, much like various styles you see within different art movements of the past. There are a wide range of personal styles, but they can all be averaged into a general category.

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    mawk
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Actually, that's "Japanimation". Anime and manga are not just Japanese (although the majority of them are) In truth, anime and manga are a class of visual styles, much like various styles you see within different art movements of the past. There are a wide range of personal styles, but they can all be averaged into a general category.

not really. "japanimation" is just the term that history teachers and grandmas use for it, and is not a separate thing. anime is pretty definitively the term for animation from japan. western shows have been appearing lately that are anime-styled, but the visual style alone isn't what makes it.

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    Ellie
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Do Pokemon, Yu-Gi-Oh, Monster Rancher, etc class as animes?

I used to watch Pokemon religiously, right up until they got the G.S ball. I stopped watching then (mainly because all the kids TV shows moved on to freeview I think).

I watched Yu-Gi-Oh but not really through choice; it was the only thing on in the morning.

I wouldn't class the smurfs, or the snorks, or scooby-doo as anime, definately not. They're cartoons. But I don't know what the distinction is between anime and cartoon, they are essentially the same, except one is Japanese! Or is anime just a way of saying "adult cartoon"?

I ended up watching an episode of Bleach last night and I was shocked at how shit it was. Whenever someone talks just their mouth is animated, they remain perfectly still. Lazy or what? And there was nothing remotely interesting, funny, exciting, or cool about it...


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    action
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Yea, their still anime's... Although they don't stick to the genre too much, and often have alot of eastern styles.
But I don't know. Ask Tindy, he'd know.

I'm currently watching Death Note, because I never did before. I read the manga first though, then watch the anime (which disappoints me...)
Whoever came up with it must be a genius - all the thinking that had to be put into the contraptions, plot, L's thought process, and about everything. Also, the art is amazing - th detail that is put into the drawing - it is the best art I've ever seen in a manga.

But it's done, so few people are watching it - Adult Swim has finished the series and started over maybe 50 times already. But if you haven't read/watched it yet, it is a definite 'yes'.

Bleach?
I hate that show. So many people are obsessed with it, saying it's the best anime in the world
It plain outright sucks.
Like what wyatt said about the animation, that is horrible. As well the art is stereotypical, and nothing unique or original about that.
The spanish words they use in the manga... Why would you?
And the plot is obvious, I know what'll happen pages into it, and the plot isn't exactly original either....

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    Twirly
  Sun Nov 22, 2009 1:31 am
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Perihelion wrote:
I really want to watch the Hellsing OVA, but I'm gonna wait till it's all done. I know the eighth one is supposed to come out in December, but does anyone know if that's the last one? I also plan to see Black Lagoon and Samurai Champloo at some point.

Idk about Black Lagoon but I watched Samurai Champloo and enjoyed it :o
Also I think they are making 10 hellsing OVA's iirc.


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    moog
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lain was pretty cool, and yeah des i agree about gantz. i didnt mind the vamp thing so much because the writing was still mostly solid but the story was kinda dumb for a while. its kind of back on track now though. i think i like it so much because the vernacular is so realistic, and not just standard anime cliches.

i really wish theyd do a season three of the anime (which wasnt that great but meh)


also haruhi is bland to me! I watched it and did not understand why it is so revered as a great anime, someone please explain this to me.


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    psiclone
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Higurashi_no_Naku_Koro_ni

I haven't watched it in a while, but it was the last time I watched any anime. The animation is amazing, the opening song is absolutely pwn, and it's not kiddy at all. This guy moves into a new town, and everything's going swell until he meets these girls who just so happen to all begin to realize that this boy looks like one of their friends that died.. and then all hell breaks loose. It's got murder, blood, nudity that you can't see (:() and it's just overall creepy as shit.

What's interesting about this series, is all the episodes (after the first season) do not connect together. I mean, they do.. but they don't. You'd have to watch to see what I mean. I really like it, and in fact I haven't watched it since halfway through season 2, so I don't know if they eventually finally connected all episodes or not.. in fact, I'm going to download those now.

EDIT: After pasting that Wiki, I just realized that's the game.. http://oldtaku.wordpress.com/2008/04/28 ... u-koro-ni/ There :P


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Commodore Whynot wrote:
I wouldn't class the smurfs, or the snorks, or scooby-doo as anime, definately not. They're cartoons. But I don't know what the distinction is between anime and cartoon, they are essentially the same, except one is Japanese! Or is anime just a way of saying "adult cartoon"?

anime = japanese-made cartoon

thats the only definition

just because all jap-made cartoons share a lot of the same characteristics, it doesnt mean that the term defines it as a genre any more than french-made cartoons or canadian-made cartoons are a genre.

it's ...a category maybe

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anyway it's been a while since ive seen any anime. i used to watch bleach and naruto for some sadistic reason. then i lost interest entirely. i watched soul eater for a time, and while the animation quality was amazing, i kind of lost interest in it, too, after the 1st season.

saw all of cowboy bebop and samurai champloo, and they're amazing, but wolf's rain is made my the same guy i think and it's garbage outside of art production.

when i was a teen i was really into vampire hunter d (2 movies).

i too saw a lot of pokemon just because it was on in the morning years back. haven't seen a bit of it in probably 8 years though.

deathnote was cool until L died.

reign was trash. aeon flux was kind of neat. theyre by the same artist and the style kinda makes me nauseated.

i watched some yu yu hakusho because my friend loved it but i couldn't pay attention.

(case closed!) conan the detective was a VERY cute show.

lupin the third is amazing. hilarious and tawdry and campy.

moribito: guardian of the spirit is a very nice looking anime. a little slow at times but worth it IMO, very different from most anime. it stars a 30-something-year-old woman, that alone is something very different.

the big O is CRAP UGH SO FRUSTRATING AND PRETENTIOUS

neon genesis evangalion was ... uh, confusing. worth a watch but dont start trying to deconstruct it like the other japfags because it's not worth the effort.

blood+ the series is total crap with some nice animation, but the OAV is actually riveting and has a very cool art style

ghost in the shell, i like pretty much all of it, incl. movies, though it can be fairly pretentious in a political way.

spirited away is amazing. beautiful and whimsical and a little frightening sometimes, like a good fairytale.

princess mononoke is by the same people i think... it's very good but arguably not as good as spirited away.

ninja scroll was really good, very graphic, some scenes make you downright uncomfortable, but it's a good thing.

grave of the fireflies is probably the best anime movie i've ever seen, and it's gut-wrenchingly sad. if you're american, after seeing it, you'll want to walk the trail of tears. it's incredibly poignant in its down-to-earth, terribly-human characteristics and portrayals of trying desperately to make a little life out of absolutely nothing.

afro samurai isn't technically anime as it was american-made, but the art style is reminiscient of cowboy bebop. it's fucking awesome.

code geass is SHIT SHIT SHIT SHIT, AVOID AVOID WARNING: J-POP NONSENSE

FLCL is hugely entertaining, you have to watch it more than once to appreciate it though, as it's very frenetic and strange

fullmetal alchemist is worth a watch. very j-pop at times but it features some neat original lore.

blue gender was CRAPPPPPPPPPPPPP...

eureka seven was CRAP on a CRAP HANDBAG though the animation is gorgeous

witch hunter robin is CRAP with a cool art style

outlaw star was very entertaining, it was like a more j-popped cowboy bebop IMO

paranoia agent is probably my 2nd most-favorite anime series ever, after cowboy bebop. some of the eps you have to watch twice because the themes and subtleties are hard to pick up on the 1st time thru.

shin-chan, the adult swim version, is really pretty hilarious

super milk-chan show is entertaining in a very self-defeating sort of "WTF LOL JAPAN" way.

trinity blood looked promising on the 1st ep and then TANKED.

BOBOBO-BOBOBOBO is like milk-chan but more on speed laced with lsd.

tenchi muyo! and all its spin offs are not worth your time.

trigun was very entertaining and definitely a classic.

there was this other OAV called like... perfect blue or something, it was about a rock star who falls from the limelight during a blackmailing stalking attempt and is forced to do some horrible shit... gah it was really good, but can't remember the name.

that's all i can think of ATM

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    nikki
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I cant watch anime anymore. Theres always loose ends of the story. The two characters you are sure should end up together never do. They never say "I love you." If its sci-fi or action, the ending usually involves lots of swirly lights and something with angel wings. They just dont make sense to me.

The gurls are shmexy though.


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    moog
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flcl= the best anime ever

some faggot on here compared it to family guy or some shit, he needs to die

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    moog
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also grave of the fireflies was amazing! Everyone puts spirited away on a pedestal (its great but come on) this is better. imo satoshi kon is a much better director than miyazaki. Go watch millenium actress, its awesome as well.

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yes it was called this and it was great! i reccommend this too. like i said, satoshi kon is a genious of direction

miyazakis best films imo are porco rosso and princess mononoke. HOWLS MOVING CASTLE WAS CRAP IMO idk see why everyone loves it :/


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    psiclone
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omfg, I can't believe I forgot about Bastard!.

It's a fucking awesome anime, but it's hugely unfinished. Only, I think, 7 episodes were made. It's so awesome for those 3.5 hours.


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    mawk
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yeah howl's moving castle wasn't very good at all

porco rosso was charming but I wouldn't put it above spirited away

will keep an eye out for grave of the fireflies, though

speaking of miyazaki uh

wth is Ponyo??? I saw posters for it (french posters) a few months back but aside from that I've heard nothing about it, good or bad

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miyazakis best films imo are porco rosso and princess mononoke. HOWLS MOVING CASTLE WAS CRAP IMO idk see why everyone loves it :/
howl's moving castle was alright, i really digged (dug? idk) the late 19th century vibe they had going on there (it felt distinctly european to me) but it's definitely not miyazaki's best work

i liked porco rosso but to me it felt like it didn't have much of a plot. you could tell miyazaki had a lot of fun with it but imo it felt too short or... just lacking in general. the whole "cursed and turned into pig" thing felt like it was never explained and the film overall felt flat to me.

i can't decide between princess mononoke, spirited away, or castle in the sky as my favourite miyazaki movie. they're all great for their own reasons:

-i'm not normally interested in asian culture or history but the idea of the forest guardians really appealed to me for some reason. it's definitely miyazaki's most adult work and this is probably part of the reason i like it so much. admittedly i was a bit hesistant towards it considering i first saw it when i was 10, but i watched it again a few months ago and love it

-spirited away is a great film because it tells a good story and is full of imagination. it's got some of the most interesting character designs and elements i've ever seen, and truly epitomizes what creativity can do with a movie. it's whimsical and fun but also downright scary at times, which as venetia said are things that make a fairytale good

-castle in the sky is a beautiful movie. i'm a HUGE fan of the art style and characters, and considering it was miyazaki's second film it turned out extremely well. the english dub did a terrible job with the two main characters, though, a disappointment if you've watched the japanese version first. that movie has had a really big influence on me, though. it's too bad it's one of miyazaki's rarer films, but you can find a couple good copies of it on vimeo. it's worth watching.

dr. goodlife wrote:
wth is Ponyo??? I saw posters for it (french posters) a few months back but aside from that I've heard nothing about it, good or bad
idk about this movie. when i first saw the previews for it i didn't think it was going to be any good, but current reviews for it have been mostly positive. it's a more kid-orientated movie, like totoro, and is sort of like miyazaki's version of the little mermaid. (afaik)

it looks too cutesy for me but idk. i'll have to see if i can find a torrent of it or something.


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